2016 Postmortem

brush

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31. You're spot on. The election was absolutely stolen.

Wed Jan 4, 2017, 02:18 PM

Jan 2017

All these long analyses steer clear of even mentioning the elephant in the room (make America white . . . er, ah . . . great again) while they go on and on about how and why white working class voters abandoned the Democratic Party and voted for trump — exactly 80,000 of them in 3 states, just enough to swing the EC votes to trump.

Come on people, open your eyes and stop pinching your nose. Something smells.

It's suspicious as hell. Votes were manipulated, and in Detroit and Flint, Michigan, mostly likely in other places too, 75,000 votes weren't even counted. And you know votes from those two cities with large AA populations were for Clinton, the first major party female nominee (this issue is the twin elephant in the room — racism/misogyny).

The election results stink like crazy.

How repugs cheat and how to stop them should be the subject of these long analyses, not a speculative supposition of a huge trend of WWC voters to the repugs when it was really an obviously calculated and precise flipping of 80k votes out of millions to give trump EC votes needed to "win".

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Why I think Trump won the rust belt in spite of being the terrible person he is [View all] karynnj Jan 2017 OP

I agree MichMan Jan 2017 #1

thanks for your reply karynnj Jan 2017 #2

What used to be the Republican party is gone......... Little Star Jan 2017 #3

I think part of Bush's problem was how long he had been out of office - and A LOT had changed during Midwestern Democrat Jan 2017 #5

Reading this reminded me of some lines from the Billy Joel song "Allentown" Jake Stern Jan 2017 #4

The problem is that on election eve, Clinton was up by 6, 5, and 4 points in WI, PA, and MI ucrdem Jan 2017 #6

There were a few articles about the problems pollsters had in getting people to answer karynnj Jan 2017 #7

I can't argue with your feelings, but the lack of quantification ucrdem Jan 2017 #12

I was responding to your post that also contained little substantiation karynnj Jan 2017 #13

My first post quantified, my second post substantiated. You haven't done either. nt ucrdem Jan 2017 #16

Your real clear politics link actually would substantiate what I said karynnj Jan 2017 #17

So Trump gained 7.6 points and Feingold lost in Walker's state because Hillary? ucrdem Jan 2017 #19

I did not say Feingold lost because of HRC -- the point was that there was a wave against karynnj Jan 2017 #20

Nationally Clinton won by 2+ points. So there goes that meme. nt ucrdem Jan 2017 #21

You completely missed the point. karynnj Jan 2017 #22

I get your point. It seems you're blaming the results of GOP cheating on the Clintons. ucrdem Jan 2017 #23

Where do get that I am blaming the Clintons at all? karynnj Jan 2017 #24

I read your OP. ucrdem Jan 2017 #25

You're spot on. The election was absolutely stolen. brush Jan 2017 #31

the thing is they Voted for him in the Primary. They did have a choice and they chose him among JI7 Jan 2017 #8

The over whelming majority of Democrats in the House were against the TPP. The unions think Jan 2017 #9

Exactly karynnj Jan 2017 #10

Stunningly brilliant analysis. Tatiana Jan 2017 #11

On abortion: LeftInTX Jan 2017 #15

I felt sorry for her on that question karynnj Jan 2017 #18

the nativist/nationalist/xenophobic fervor festers where people feel as if geek tragedy Jan 2017 #14

As far as abortion goes, Trump had them at his over-the-top remark to Chris Matthews no_hypocrisy Jan 2017 #26

It is not that complicated Eliot Rosewater Jan 2017 #27

I listened to the various interviews with those voters The_Casual_Observer Jan 2017 #28

Keep in mind that media presentations are mediated. ucrdem Jan 2017 #29

This is exactly why Bernie should have been the nominee. Joe941 Jan 2017 #30