2016 Postmortem

vi5

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10. Because it makes the assumption....

Thu Jan 5, 2017, 01:26 PM

Jan 2017

..that those people would have voted for her if Bernie hadn't been in the race, and/or that the stuff Bernie said was anything they had not heard or thought themselves before the primary. And there is no evidence to back that up other than pointing to a few general polls prior to the primary that said Clinton was "admired", with zero evidence that those numbers included any of the people who sat out this election.

I knew very few Bernie or Bust voters but the ones I did were never under any circumstances going to vote for Hillary Clinton, even if they had never heard the name Bernie Sanders.

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Registered Voters Who Stayed Home Probably Cost Clinton The Election [View all] portlander23 Jan 2017 OP

Stay at homes .......? suston96 Jan 2017 #1

Yup. I know 4 or 5 passionate Sanders supporters who stayed home. lamp_shade Jan 2017 #2

Please slap them all in the face with a dead trout for me... Blue_Tires Jan 2017 #12

They're all family... all very young adults... probably not even registered to vote. lamp_shade Jan 2017 #22

Election losses in this country are often sharp_stick Jan 2017 #3

Comey cast more doubt and many people just gave up and stayed home. riversedge Jan 2017 #4

Nah! Not buying it. brush Jan 2017 #5

The 538 analysis is based on actual polling data. Jim Lane Jan 2017 #20

How do you exit poll non-voters? brush Jan 2017 #21

You're confusing two different concepts Jim Lane Jan 2017 #24

++++ NO !!!! ++++ Clinton got nearly as many votes as 2012 Obama !!! uponit7771 Jan 2017 #6

True, but the population of registered voters increases each year as well karynnj Jan 2017 #18

Thanks for nothing, stay-at-homes. (nt) Paladin Jan 2017 #7

Ok. So why do those of us who are angry at Bernie for attacking her get shit for that? kcr Jan 2017 #8

Because it makes the assumption.... vi5 Jan 2017 #10

Nothing in this says that they would have been motivated to vote for HRC had there been no primary karynnj Jan 2017 #19

Agreed. Never again let a non-Dem with no allegiance to the party run as a Dem brush Jan 2017 #23

I hope the DNC implements this policy liquid diamond Jan 2017 #43

Yes! brush Jan 2017 #44

Yeah... that's a great solution kenfrequed Jan 2017 #47

You and your types liquid diamond Jan 2017 #49

"My types"? kenfrequed Jan 2017 #63

Well said! LiberalLovinLug Jan 2017 #77

Perfect example of our losing strategy. HassleCat Jan 2017 #76

Post removed Post removed Jan 2017 #62

Your concern is noted hueymahl Jan 2017 #72

Agreed HRC2020 Jan 2017 #57

CNNventional wisdom that's been kicked to the curb daily for two months. nt ucrdem Jan 2017 #9

It is Politics 101 earthside Jan 2017 #11

who the fuck has to be inspired to vote . keeping trump out of the white house wasnt inspiring Ohioblue22 Jan 2017 #15

Being registered to vote and subsequently voting should be inspiring enough. Iggo Jan 2017 #29

they take it for granted Ohioblue22 Jan 2017 #30

Only a narcissist has to be "inspired to vote" - especially with Trump as the alternative. yardwork Jan 2017 #50

BernieBro eom HRC2020 Jan 2017 #59

Well, I hope they ellie Jan 2017 #13

Peer Pressure Is A Powerful Tool otohara Jan 2017 #14

Those assholes will get theirs. liquid diamond Jan 2017 #45

This really isn't true, and blaming it on "minorities" makes it worse. ucrdem Jan 2017 #16

You are using two different numbers. kenfrequed Jan 2017 #48

Clinton and the DNC did not help themselves, but they still should have been able to beat Trump, and JCanete Jan 2017 #17

Clinton just didn't inspire the young voters as seen by these numbers. jalan48 Jan 2017 #25

The young voters that BS "inspired" couldn't be bothered to come out and vote for BS SFnomad Jan 2017 #34

Let's face it-Hillary as inspirational wasn't happening. jalan48 Jan 2017 #35

And that isn't why she lost. If that's all it took, BS would have won the primary SFnomad Jan 2017 #38

Given how late he started and with no money-it's anybody's guess. jalan48 Jan 2017 #39

FFS, you people sure do have one excuse after another #smh SFnomad Jan 2017 #42

Hillary Inspired Millions of Young Women.. I know a lot of BS fans Cha Jan 2017 #51

Yeah, maybe next time we'll put country above ego? Just a reminder; JTFrog Jan 2017 #58

I guess you need to tell that to the people who didn't vote or are we still blaming the voters? jalan48 Jan 2017 #60

Because we had a spoiler drumming up division. Not really that hard to pinpoint. nt JTFrog Jan 2017 #61

Take a look at the candidate's favorability ratings. jalan48 Jan 2017 #64

It wasn't close. She won by 3 million votes. JTFrog Jan 2017 #65

If she won by 3 million votes why isn't she the President then? jalan48 Jan 2017 #66

Russia. Comey. GOP. Duh. nt JTFrog Jan 2017 #67

Russia, Comey and the GOP made voters stay home? Wow! It's hopeless then. jalan48 Jan 2017 #68

Fake news and hacking from Russia. Division from the spoiler. Comey and his fake announcement. JTFrog Jan 2017 #69

It's everyone else's fault is the message then. Got it. jalan48 Jan 2017 #70

Whatever helps you sleep at night. nt JTFrog Jan 2017 #71

Victim-hood is a losing mindset. It will only lead to more losses. jalan48 Jan 2017 #74

Yes, because ignoring all of the things that actually happened is a winning strategy. JTFrog Jan 2017 #75

Which begs the question of why that 41% did not vote. guillaumeb Jan 2017 #26

I stayed home that day. TonyPDX Jan 2017 #27

Registered voters who stayed home are fucking morons. Iggo Jan 2017 #28

They will have blood on their hands mcar Jan 2017 #31

"The biggest reason given by non-voters for staying home was that they didnt like the candidates." andym Jan 2017 #32

She had a 3 million vote lead over Trump. Rex Jan 2017 #33

They cost us dearly. Not Clinton. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #36

Clear support for candidates was low so why didn't DNC get a candidate who could garner more? snowy owl Jan 2017 #37

The voters of the Democratic Party picked Clinton, and by a wide margin at that. StevieM Jan 2017 #52

But, But They at Least Preserved Their Ideological Purity Hum Jan 2017 #40

Does this include voters who wanted/tried to vote but were prevented from doing so by suppression EffieBlack Jan 2017 #41

and RUSSIA? LaydeeBug Jan 2017 #46

Flagged for Review? You Better Believe it! FSogol Jan 2017 #53

Like all things, way too late. JTFrog Jan 2017 #55

Yep I sit next to a Sanders supporter jzodda Jan 2017 #54

There's not really any single cause. Orsino Jan 2017 #56

Reason 5,236 from the North West. NCTraveler Jan 2017 #73

So whether you hate Sanders or love Sanders, its agreed he would have won. LiberalLovinLug Jan 2017 #78