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rhett o rick

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14. I think we've come to a point in our history where we are going to have to make
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 10:26 AM
Mar 2015

a big decision. For 30 years the corporatists and conservatives have run rough-shod over the middle and lower classes. I don't think any of us here will disagree. Where we disagree is when are we going to stop retreating into poverty and tyranny and stand and fight?

Sadly we have posters here that will argue that things aren't so bad and we can continue down the path for a little while longer. This is the rational that I see used to justify the support of H. Clinton.

In 2008 people recognized that H. Clinton, the apparent claimer of the throne, would not provide the change we needed and a relatively unknown easily defeated her with the promise of change. Whether or not Obama wanted change and failed with his promises or he never was that hot about change is another debate. But here we are faced with the need for change and guess who is once again "the claimer of the throne".

The Democratic Party grassroots should have learned from 2008 and also 2000. In 2000 the DLC/Conservative Wing ran Gore which looked to many as a continuation of the status quo. Gore failed in 2000 and Clinton failed in 2008.

We need a candidate that is willing to take a chance and fight for change.

The American people are ready for change and Clinton v. Bush doesn't offer that change.

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I hope it matters. /nt RiverLover Mar 2015 #1
Attention, HRC fans flocking here to flame. Divernan Mar 2015 #2
Really great point. The writing is on the wall. RiverLover Mar 2015 #3
I don't support the email witch hunt. But it's a good point about the potential of emails GoneFishin Mar 2015 #9
Yep the timing is just about right. zeemike Mar 2015 #12
K&R DeSwiss Mar 2015 #4
In politics, Carroll Quigley trumps Jesus. merrily Mar 2015 #7
Sanders gets a good reception, too, but media will acknowledge that even less than it merrily Mar 2015 #5
Both of these women... Mike Nelson Mar 2015 #6
Did you post that in the Hillary Group, too? merrily Mar 2015 #8
Not sure. I read the "Latest Threads" and "Greatest Threads"... Mike Nelson Mar 2015 #15
Sure it matters Wash. state Desk Jet Mar 2015 #10
News flash, HRC! Revenge is a two way street. Divernan Mar 2015 #13
I will not bash Hillary for this email crap mountain grammy Mar 2015 #11
I don't think Hillary can win, either. I also think it's near insane not to have a merrily Mar 2015 #16
I think we've come to a point in our history where we are going to have to make rhett o rick Mar 2015 #14
I am not so sure that is what happened in 2008, rhett. merrily Mar 2015 #17
I agree with you and believe that the Powers That Be wanted Obama. rhett o rick Mar 2015 #18
I don't know if that was the reason the powerful people in the Dem Party wanted Obama. merrily Mar 2015 #19
Uh Oh. Hillary never signed her SOS "separation papers"... News today. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #20
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