The Way Forward

osteopath6

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20. NATO isn't clean either

Wed Jan 22, 2025, 12:14 AM

Jan 22

Nobody is. War is bad. Nobody in a war has the moral highground IMO.

If its not worth literally ending the world and using nukes, its not worth murdering fellow humans over. And to me very, very, VERY few things could justify the use of "a" nuclear weapon let alone a strategic use of them.

I can't really think of a single situation that would lead me to support going to war.

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Act like Democrats. [View all] WarGamer Jan 21 OP

True. I didn't like the cozying up to Cheneys either ck4829 Jan 21 #1

I actually don't believe in a mono-polar world. WarGamer Jan 21 #2

Yeah the whole "Let's just forget about all the evil shit Putin does and be friends" is naive and foolish. BannonsLiver Jan 21 #3

that's a bit black and white. WarGamer Jan 21 #13

NATO isn't clean either osteopath6 Jan 22 #20

Another thing to discuss is to fight "the man". We totally should go back to that. ck4829 Jan 21 #4

Yes.... We became Maga-lite LiberalArkie Jan 21 #5

Peltier was convicted in 1977 dpibel Jan 21 #6

You are absolutely correct. I believe that was the Ford DOJ. LiberalArkie Jan 21 #11

MAGA light? BannonsLiver Jan 21 #15

I see that The Wandering Harper Monday #41

Doesn't make it maga light though. BannonsLiver Monday #42

that's a matter of opinion The Wandering Harper Tuesday #46

Indeed. BannonsLiver Tuesday #48

If you can count the KNEECAP movie as a documentary? The Wandering Harper Tuesday #49

They went that long because he deserved to rot in prison Mountainguy Jan 21 #17

I am not saying we should run Liz Cheney or Adam Kensinger for president. But we need somrone doc03 Jan 21 #7

It's "canonized" dpibel Jan 21 #8

noted, tyvm. WarGamer Jan 21 #12

I agree that we need better candidates senseandsensibility Jan 21 #9

Democrats aren't silencing speech!!! Lunabell Jan 21 #10

You know what you're doing... WarGamer Jan 21 #14

Are you talking about "cancel culture" here? dpibel Jan 21 #16

It's not the Democrats who are censoring. Lunabell Jan 21 #18

Opposition to war is not a right-wing talking point. Sailingfish Jan 22 #22

Well, just tell putin about this. Lunabell Jan 22 #23

The obsession with Putin from many is beyond laughable. Sailingfish Jan 22 #24

Obsessed with putin? Lunabell Jan 22 #25

All wars result in the death and murder of innocents. That's the point. Sailingfish Jan 22 #26

This osteopath6 Jan 21 #19

Haven't Dems got any youngsters with charisma??? ultralite001 Jan 22 #21

Dem leadership growing a spine needs to be the first step GoreWon2000 Jan 22 #27

Hmmm...you managed to irk both of my enthno origins... electric_blue68 Thursday #28

Ok... WarGamer Friday #29

Yeas, it was an allegory, but you still picked it as an example... As for Ukraine... electric_blue68 Friday #30

Here's what I think... not that it means much. WarGamer Friday #31

You've had some first hand experiences! Yeah, I've read about... electric_blue68 Friday #32

Opportunities will be readily available. WarGamer Friday #33

Utterly delusional. BannonsLiver Friday #34

Just wait and see... Ukraine will come out of this better than going in... in some ways. WarGamer Friday #36

ONLY because they fought Red Mountain Monday #43

I wish I was a fly on the wall during the pre-war negotiations. WarGamer Monday #44

Bullshit. Why should a sovereign nation give up territory to a corrupt aggressive neighbor? FSogol Friday #35

Look at a map or a globe and find a nation that's never given up territory in a war... I'll wait. WarGamer Friday #37

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no flames here... WarGamer Saturday #40

Acting like Democrats is challenging for some: Passages Monday #45

I'll just be God-DAMNED if I'll stop blaming the stupid fucking voters. Paladin Tuesday #47

10-20 years? Please double that. JHB Tuesday #50