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The Way Forward

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WarGamer

(16,172 posts)
Wed Jan 22, 2025, 03:35 PM Jan 22

I want to explain how the GOP went from "Dead and Buried" to at it's peak in 2024. [View all]

Remember 2008 and 2012?

I remember thinking to myself, "They're done. The GOP is so weak and unorganized, with a dwindling base and Demographic changes... we may never see another GOP President.

Now we're looking at 8/12 years of GOP rule.

So what happened?

I've thought about it extensively.

Let me share.

It all goes back to the neocons, my favorite topic, lol...

Neocons are that group of warmongers who A) Wanted to win the Cold War and B) Were annoyed by the counter-culture movement of the 60's and the Civil Rights movement

Early neocons were mostly DEMS.

The neocons hid their true purpose, American Imperialism by building fake support groups including Evangelicals, Country Club Republicans and soccer moms, whatever.

It worked with Ronald Reagan... he won 2x

The 90's rolled in and Bill Clinton won 2x.

The GOP was starting to lose it's voters... and the DEMS were building up voters.

The last gasp of the neocons was the election of Shrub the Lesser.

Georgie boy stocked his Administration with ne'er do well Neocon scumbags.

One fake illegal war later and even GOP'ers grew tired.

Add in the candidates.

The GOP used to have a thing with nominating the most boring people on the planet.

Dole, McCain, Romney...

Thought Experiment:

Look at the Trump base who won in 2024... winning all 7 Swing States and setting high marks in Minority votes. Now look at Mitt Romney and tell me how many of those Trump people would have voted for Mitt. How many GOP'ers pumped their fists and cheered on Mitt? Drove around with Mitt flags on their trucks and boats?

In other words, Romney would have lost to Harris 60-40 in 2024, IMHO.

Trump killed the neocon movement. The neocons used to pander support from groups but then never do anything for them after winning elections. Neocons USED people for their vote.

Traditional GOP 100% alienated a HUGE portion of the US voting public. Even those who might lean RIGHT.

Trump's entire strategy was to mine for the 30% of white folks that didn't vote and then got lucky after 2016 when the DEMS ran to the right and cozied up with neocons which resulted in even MORE DEM adjacent blue collar folks voting Trump.

Failure in 2024 was 50% Failure of the DEM Party.

And 50% Trump ascendancy as a strategy...

That's why we're here today.

My solution?

In a sentence. Invest EVERYTHING to taking BACK the populist banner... similar to what Bernie said...

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I don't hate this AkFemDem Jan 22 #1
We cannot make a plan until we figure out some things. Irish_Dem Jan 22 #2
My suggestion is that the party put a lot of eggs into the FalloutShelter Jan 22 #6
Propaganda machines work well for the GOP GreenWave Jan 22 #3
agreed - being actually populist, following the FDR playbook, is the only path forward ProfessorPlum Jan 22 #4
By asking how renaming that poli-junkie Jan 22 #5
We seem to have skipped right over voter fraud, suppression, gerrymandering... 58Sunliner Jan 22 #7
Voter fraud doesn't really exist... gerrymandering doesn't affect Presidential elections... WarGamer Jan 22 #8
Voter fraud does exist and we are talking about the party. 58Sunliner Jan 22 #9
I think you might be confusing the term "voter fraud" with Election Fraud? significant distinction. msfiddlestix Jan 27 #17
Pretty confusing, maybe even confused. dpibel Jan 22 #10
A mess you say? Guess what, TCM is showing the classic "Gaslight" tonight! FSogol Jan 22 #11
Here. Start with wiki and then do your own research vanessa_ca Jan 22 #12
Thanks, boss! dpibel Jan 22 #14
Admittedly, it's a random thought stream... WarGamer Jan 22 #13
I don't either. BannonsLiver Jan 26 #16
Wait, you thought they were done? BannonsLiver Jan 26 #15
I agree with you about the sentiment of 2008, but strongly disagree about 2012 Polybius Jan 28 #18
I figure it's just big money. Chemical Bill Jan 29 #19
GOP is a Zombie AllPerspectivesRReal Sunday #20
Welcome to DU ! KS Toronado Sunday #22
Those people were the "Anybody but Mitt" crowd that round-robined through their favorites of the day JHB Sunday #21
What? I remember a thread like that in 2012. LeftInTX Monday #23
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