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iemanja

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Sun Jan 19, 2025, 05:32 PM Jan 19

Researchers say Gaza death toll may be significantly higher than previously estimated [View all]

The Palestinian death toll from the war in Gaza could be substantially higher than official figures reported by the Hamas-run health ministry, research published in The Lancet medical journal suggests. . .

It [The UK led study] https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0140-6736%2824%2902678-3
used data from the ministry, an online survey of relatives reporting fatalities, and obituaries. It estimated that up until 30 June 2024, 64,260 Palestinians died from traumatic injury, meaning an under-reporting of deaths by 41%


Israel says the numbers from the Gaza Health Ministry can't be trusted, but

Israel is not allowing international journalists from media organisations, including the BBC, independent access to Gaza, making it difficult to verify the facts on the ground. . . .


Researchers used a statistical method called "capture-recapture."

Researchers from the London School of Hygiene & Tropical Medicine looked at how many people turned up repeatedly in different attempts to count deaths. The level of overlap between those lists suggested that the number of deaths directly caused by traumatic injury in the conflict could be significantly higher than hospital figures published by the Ministry of Health. . . .

The report in The Lancet estimated a death toll between 55,298–78,525 people, compared to 37,877 reported by the health ministry.


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cqjvl4klzweo

The article and study are open access.
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K & R malaise Jan 19 #1
I wonder how long it will take for the damage control brigade to start trying to derail this thread. Dave Bowman Jan 19 #6
Well you have shithole........... Lovie777 Jan 19 #9
already happened iemanja Jan 19 #10
To say nothing of the OP. Beastly Boy Sunday #39
And all this time there has been an outcry about how Klarkashton Jan 19 #2
Interesting, isn't it iemanja Jan 19 #4
much higher............ Lovie777 Jan 19 #3
Well, it will stop Bettie Jan 19 #23
Looks like Hamas is manipulating the numbers again. Hellbound Hellhound Jan 19 #5
This study says the numbers are far higher than Hamas estimates iemanja Jan 19 #7
Post removed Post removed Jan 19 #8
It's based on an academic study iemanja Jan 19 #11
The "Methodology" includes "An Online Survey" from Hamas. Hellbound Hellhound Jan 19 #12
It's published in a peer reviewed academic journal iemanja Jan 19 #13
Kick away. I'll even help. I welcome more people seeing our little "interaction" here. Hellbound Hellhound Jan 19 #15
Methodology iemanja Jan 19 #17
Yes, yes, and you'd be wrong regarding peer-reviewed journals. Hellbound Hellhound Jan 19 #19
"I'm even less a fan of propaganda." Dave Bowman Jan 19 #26
It's statistical analysis iemanja Jan 20 #32
Lancet does not pay reviewers iemanja Jan 20 #33
None of the authors are affiliated with Lancet. Beastly Boy Sunday #38
Stop it with all these facts, it might create discomfort and/or cognitive dissonance for a tiny minority of people. Dave Bowman Jan 19 #25
"Kick away. I'll even help" Dave Bowman Jan 19 #28
There could be many bodies still buried in the rubble in Gaza. IMO the death count will go up. brush Jan 19 #29
I agree, it will be horrific when they proceed to clear the rubbles. Dave Bowman Jan 19 #31
Thanks! iemanja Jan 21 #35
It was not. Beastly Boy Sunday #37
It was not an academic study. Beastly Boy Sunday #36
The title of that poster's erstwhile gotcha article: 'Why the Gaza Health Ministry's death count is considered reliable' Celerity Jan 19 #16
We're supposed to look at pictures of rubble and conclude no one was actually killed iemanja Jan 19 #18
Post removed Post removed Jan 19 #20
I dismiss your snarky, condescending personal attack: 'Forgive me for assuming competence.' Celerity Jan 19 #24
Yeah, how convenient. Dave Bowman Jan 19 #27
Make the look bad. enid602 Jan 19 #21
Considering this study includes "instagram" as a source, I think Hamas is making themselves look worse. Hellbound Hellhound Jan 19 #22
I follow both .......... Lovie777 Jan 19 #14
But remember, it's only genocide if it happens to Israelis. Sky Jewels Jan 19 #30
Kick iemanja Jan 20 #34
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