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Wiz Imp

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39. I'm not saying Palast made up the numbers. I'm saying he gave no evidence for me to trust they are
Sat Jan 25, 2025, 02:38 PM
Jan 2025

accurate. I think he got them from somewhere or extrapolated them based on assumptions he has made, but that's the point - I don't know if he doesn't tell me.

Some of those numbers are way higher than I would expect, so I have a hard time accepting them at face value. I mean, over 2 million mail in ballots rejected for minor clerical errors? I know some get rejected, but I've never read anything that would hint at anywhere near that level. I mean, I would think that would be news if it were true. So it should be easy to provide supporting evidence but Palast provides none. I'd like his conclusion to be proven to be true - it would be good ammunition to actually get changes made for the future, but again, I'm not going to accept his article as proof of anything until I see evidence his numbers are accurate. Unfortunately, there are numerous people on this and other threads willing to jump on any info that supports their thought that the Republicans cheated, so they immediately respond with things like: "I knew this was true" - effectively blindly accepting it without any proof.

Voter suppression is a core strategy of the Republicans, but I believe that is mostly accomplished by making people not even try to vote. His argument is that these millions of people tried to vote and their votes weren't counted. My first question when I hear an accusation like that is, how do you know that? Even some explanation of sources would be good, but he doesn't even provide that.

I would hope questions like mine would prompt Palast and others with similar theories to provide reliable clarifying info. Until that happens, I can't help but remain skeptical

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Vote in person! Cattledog Jan 2025 #1
We can't in Washington State. It's all by mail. LisaM Jan 2025 #9
And we can thank Postmaster DeJoy for those personnel cuts Wicked Blue Jan 2025 #12
"Most of the people whose votes are purged, never know it." Kid Berwyn Jan 2025 #2
Hence, the magical Trump gains in URBAN districts Charging Triceratops Jan 2025 #28
"Illegal Votes" he called Detroit in 2020. Kid Berwyn Jan 2025 #35
Playing defense is a bad position... DSandra Jan 2025 #3
We know about the disenfranchisement and voter purges, but how about Elon's "vote counting computers"? sop Jan 2025 #4
Truth will out malaise Jan 2025 #5
The depraved, bloated, orange monster knows he lost. ariadne0614 Jan 2025 #6
Trump won Pennsylvania by over 100,000 votes Jose Garcia Jan 2025 #7
Why the double standard? We had years of GOP 'activists' telling us the election in 2020 was 'rigged' PatrickforB Jan 2025 #17
Palast is an American hero expat ! RANDYWILDMAN Jan 2025 #8
Because ReRe Jan 2025 #25
Greg Palast is Correct, however annielion Jan 2025 #10
Since 2016... sanduca Jan 2025 #11
Harris would have blown trump out the door, Bluethroughu Jan 2025 #13
In My County Mr.Bee Jan 2025 #14
The election was stolded!!! Bonx Jan 2025 #15
Where is the evidence supporting even one of the claims? Wiz Imp Jan 2025 #16
Well, I'm not going back and researching newspaper & other journalistic accounts for you... Hekate Jan 2025 #20
In other words, you have none. Wiz Imp Jan 2025 #21
Carry on Hekate Jan 2025 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Hekate Jan 2025 #41
That's SickOfTheOnePct Jan 2025 #22
I know. Wiz Imp Jan 2025 #23
Why not take at look - what's the problem? Ttj Jan 2025 #24
Everybody knows there is voter suppression and that is a big part of Republican strategy Wiz Imp Jan 2025 #29
You need evidence given all of the open and conspicuous effort of the GOP machine to subvert KPN Jan 2025 #26
Absolutely I need evidence. Anybody can just make up numbers and say they show that Trump lost Wiz Imp Jan 2025 #32
So you're saying that Palast made up numbers? BTW, nothing in my comment says that I think KPN Jan 2025 #37
I'm not saying Palast made up the numbers. I'm saying he gave no evidence for me to trust they are Wiz Imp Jan 2025 #39
Voter suppression is real Ttj Jan 2025 #27
Post # 2 has the link to the article, evidence included questionseverything Jan 2025 #31
I read the article. There is no evidence presented. Just numbers apparently pulled out of thin air. Wiz Imp Jan 2025 #33
Vote denial, MAGA will do lore of it uponit7771 Jan 2025 #18
This is what I have been saying for well over a year, as the gerrymandering & purging have proceeded... Hekate Jan 2025 #19
I wish Democrats in Congress would investigate and hold hearings La Coliniere Jan 2025 #30
Hasnt he said the same one way or another with every elections Dems have lost since Kerry? LizBeth Jan 2025 #34
What happened to AG Garland's crack team Sewa Jan 2025 #38
I voted in person for this reason. yardwork Jan 2025 #40
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