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jmowreader

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70. NC, I can believe

Wed Jan 29, 2025, 04:52 PM

Jan 29

In 2001 and 2004, the voters of North Carolina chose Mike Easley, a Democrat, as governor and George W. Bush, a Republican, as president. North Carolina has a LONG history of breaking for the Democrat in the governor's race and the Republican in the presidential race. North Carolina has had five governors in this century, and only twice has the governor and president races broken for the same party: in 2008 Democrats Bev Perdue and Barack Obama won the state, and in 2012 Republicans Pat McCrory and Mitt Romney won it. (McCrory is the only Republican North Carolina governor of this century.) The rest of the elections were won by the D gubernatorial candidate and the R presidential candidate.

This happens enough that the state Board of Elections sets up ballots so a "straight ticket" vote doesn't include the presidential race.

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At this point I believe Musk threw the election for TSF [View all] orangecrush Jan 28 OP

I have no proof, but it would certainly explain a lot. A *lot*. unblock Jan 28 #1

And no way Trump won all of the swing states. nt Frank D. Lincoln Jan 28 #3

AND the fucking POPULAR VOTE????? Maraya1969 Jan 28 #43

I don't believe that bullshit either Dem4life1234 Jan 29 #59

NC, I can believe jmowreader Jan 29 #70

Remember that the GOP Magas were actually given access to the voting machines. Some even took them out of election ratchiweenie Jan 29 #58

And they selectively cut specific voters into provisional ballots that are not counted. Festivito Jan 29 #68

This is the type of cheating I think they did, on the ground dirty tricks, not hacking tabulators. -nt CrispyQ Jan 29 #81

Seems totally obvious. Irish_Dem Jan 28 #2

Yup. Add a little here and there. Probably why the demographics who suddenly started voting travelingthrulife Jan 29 #60

I'm inclined to agree Meowmee Jan 28 #4

Don't you get the feeling that your life has already been staked? dchill Jan 28 #41

That is another matter Meowmee Jan 29 #55

I remain malaise Jan 28 #5

The last time the White House passed from a Democratic administration to... JHB Jan 28 #39

One thing for sure: if they knew a way to cheat, they would. unblock Jan 28 #6

If they did then there will be leaks, eventually. Dave Bowman Jan 28 #51

The evil one has been bragging about it the last few days questionseverything Jan 29 #62

If you mean massive dollars directed at sowing Phoenix61 Jan 28 #7

Not psyops, actual tampering. Condescenturion Jan 28 #10

I have to believe BonnieJW Jan 28 #23

johnson knew in '68 and carter knew as well rampartd Jan 29 #67

I Would NOT BE Cha Jan 28 #8

Greg Palast explains MaineNative Jan 28 #9

Also aided by dirty trickster tactics, such as bomb scares. yellow dahlia Jan 28 #29

Good post orangecrush Jan 28 #37

Yep. Trillions were at stake not fooled Jan 28 #54

Musk? Maybe... More like SnoopDog Jan 28 #11

Wouldn't surprise me to see some cash payments from Musk/others directly to officials in the states. erronis Jan 28 #12

That makes a lot of sense..! SnoopDog Jan 28 #16

The only swing states with Republican secretaries of state were Georgia and Pennsylvania. Wiz Imp Jan 28 #13

Voters were purged - it doesn't have to be Sec of State... SnoopDog Jan 28 #15

Here's the post I responded directly to. Wiz Imp Jan 28 #27

This MichMan Jan 28 #31

Wisconsin is controlled by repubs questionseverything Jan 29 #63

Wrong. Democratic Governor. Democratic Secretary of state. Democratic majority on state Supreme Court. Wiz Imp Jan 29 #64

Yes, this. Diamond_Dog Jan 28 #14

Let.It.Go. speak easy Jan 28 #17

I. Will.Not. OMGWTF Jan 28 #21

Well, speak easy Jan 28 #52

I don't think election meddling should be so dismissed like that Dem4life1234 Jan 29 #61

"I don't think election meddling should be so dismissed" speak easy Jan 29 #72

Investigated by whom? Highway61 Jan 29 #75

State AGs where there is evidence of misconduct in their state. speak easy Jan 29 #76

Sorry... Highway61 Jan 29 #80

I think you have misunderstood me. speak easy Jan 29 #82

I have been saying this gopiscrap Jan 28 #18

I have believed this since November. phylny Jan 28 #19

I've felt this way from day 1 karin_sj Jan 28 #20

And Agolf Shitler said he should have won California. LOL! OMGWTF Jan 28 #22

Right. It's simple logic. yellow dahlia Jan 28 #32

"I don't need your votes. I have plenty of votes." rubbersole Jan 28 #24

From what I recall, there was some sort of back channel in Twitter... Hugin Jan 28 #25

I remember that orangecrush Jan 28 #35

I'm sure Musk taking over Twitter netted Trump 1 or 2% applegrove Jan 28 #26

D'ac! Leon is just too smug by half... GoldenMezzoDiva Jan 28 #28

The grifter IS that boy in The Twilight Zone. yellow dahlia Jan 28 #33

I have no proof thinkingagain Jan 28 #30

With you on questioning 2016 also. yellow dahlia Jan 28 #34

NO doubt (nt) birdographer Jan 28 #36

I see no good evidence to believe it was stolen. The polls were close. The final results were not far from the polls. sciencescience Jan 28 #38

It's embarrassing to watch on our side. BannonsLiver Jan 29 #66

I think you need another word NJCher Jan 29 #83

Nah. But thanks for the tip. BannonsLiver Jan 29 #86

And thank you, too NJCher Thursday #87

Hacked the software that counts the vote relayerbob Jan 28 #40

Someone knows. Joinfortmill Jan 28 #42

Yup. orangecrush Jan 28 #50

Jeeze, not this shit again.. reACTIONary Jan 28 #44

Later orangecrush Jan 28 #49

It's 4 Seasons Total Landscaping all over again. BannonsLiver Jan 29 #65

But if the cranial-deficient ReRe Jan 28 #45

The 2016 election was wrought with fraud and interference from Russia. hadEnuf Jan 28 #46

Lots of stupid people though eh 😀 Meowmee Jan 29 #56

That sentiment was popular when Bush was elected...twice. progressoid Jan 28 #47

I, too, have no idea how it was done, but I certainly believe it. BobTheSubgenius Jan 28 #48

Really shady kyburbonkid Jan 28 #53

What would give anyone the idea Trump would cheat to win Emile Jan 29 #57

never underestimate elliesmandt Jan 29 #69

Never stopped thinking this since Election Day. I don't know he did it, but he did. The comments he and Karasu Jan 29 #71

Here is how it was done - Nigrum Cattus Jan 29 #73

Democrats being complacent and over confident to vote didn't help either. elocs Jan 29 #74

Worst government money could buy. That's why he did it. usonian Jan 29 #77

There were bomb threats at polling places. suegeo Jan 29 #78

I agree. Muskrat or those who work for him hacked the machines and diddled the votes. CousinIT Jan 29 #79

Agreed Deep State Witch Jan 29 #84

Voter suppression Cirsium Jan 29 #85