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D_Master81

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86. Made the mistake the so many made in 2016

Fri Aug 22, 2025, 08:42 PM

Aug 2025

Garland, Biden et al made the same mistake that so many made when running against Trump in 2016, thinking that certainly the American people wouldn’t elect him again. I think Biden and Garland really thought that they could avoid the appearance of jailing a former President and possible future candidate because certainly after January 6th, the felonies, the sexual misconduct, the fraud, the stolen documents he couldn’t be elected again. Only one problem, the American people are dumb enough to elect him again.

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The wreckage Merrick Garland leaves behind [View all] Nevilledog Aug 2025 OP

Biden's worst decision by far BeyondGeography Aug 2025 #1

Yep. kentuck Aug 2025 #2

It didn't need to become "hindsight", many of us saw it, many of us talked about our dislike for Garland, Escurumbele Aug 2025 #63

Hindsight? Cirsium Aug 2025 #73

Indeed Katnip. Aug 2025 #96

I do not disagree. kentuck Aug 2025 #116

Understood Cirsium Aug 2025 #117

A giant historic mistake that should have been corrected. dalton99a Aug 2025 #13

I am not arguing, but I think it goes back to Obama in a way. hamsterjill Aug 2025 #39

They tried to make friends with Republicans by appointing one of them Ligyron Aug 2025 #46

But we know that Judge Garland would have just been another Alito LiberalArkie Aug 2025 #62

If not Biden MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2025 #67

Obama was only going to appoint him because he was "Republicon-approved" FoxNewsSucks Aug 2025 #90

The position of Attorney General, in a country that's just had an attempted coup, should never be viewed as a Crunchy Frog Aug 2025 #98

Look forward, not backwards displacedvermoter Aug 2025 #106

His second choice was Doug Jones MadameButterfly Aug 2025 #43

We let the White Supremacists get up off the mat LuvLoogie Aug 2025 #50

Hell, they are why we have the fucking Electoral College in the first place! Jilly_in_VA Aug 2025 #58

The confederates should have been treated prodigitalson Aug 2025 #94

Preet Bharara would have been exceptional as well Polybius Aug 2025 #118

Yes, he would have gotten the job done too MadameButterfly Aug 2025 #122

Yeah jfz9580m Sep 2025 #125

AARRGLE BARRGLE!!! Fiendish Thingy Aug 2025 #3

John Roberts helped MadameButterfly Aug 2025 #45

I still have to call out J-9 Aug 2025 #85

If Gordon Lightfoot were alive, there'd be The Wreck of the Merrick Garland. TheBlackAdder Aug 2025 #112

Pick your preferred AG Fiendish Thingy Aug 2025 #115

A weak man with no imagination. NewHendoLib Aug 2025 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Aug 2025 #8

Like who? MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2025 #66

haven't seen the Garland cult in a while Skittles Aug 2025 #81

Post removed Post removed Aug 2025 #82

Sadly, not all. Nt iemanja Aug 2025 #121

Garland was an overrated bum. dalton99a Aug 2025 #10

AND, in my opinion popsdenver Aug 2025 #35

Every time I hear about a "moderate" Republican with a very good reputation MadameButterfly Aug 2025 #48

He's home right now, admiring his clean hands. BeyondGeography Aug 2025 #16

Probably going out regularly Bettie Aug 2025 #21

I think both Garland and Biden knew prosecution of trump would be a chitshow. We never should have relied on courts Silent Type Aug 2025 #5

The stolen documents was a no brainer gab13by13 Aug 2025 #11

Agree. Unfortuantely, it lost steam the minute they found documents in Biden's basement. There were a million Silent Type Aug 2025 #22

The convicted pedofelon abUSED the Seal of the President of the United States Justice matters. Aug 2025 #32

The Biden docs may have swayed public opinion but are not the reason MadameButterfly Aug 2025 #49

Think it would have hurt case UNLESS evidence was introduced of trump distributing, selling, etc., the documents. Silent Type Aug 2025 #55

a few docs in Biden's garage would not have even entered MadameButterfly Aug 2025 #56

I doubt everyone on a jury would see it like you or me. Plus, with not proof of misuse other than having records, he Silent Type Aug 2025 #60

Wasn't that case MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2025 #68

In what way were you thinking of "taking out" Trump, then? (nt) muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #18

The 'courtly' way, going on context alone EYESORE 9001 Aug 2025 #19

Beating him on policies, at debates, matching him rally for rally, etc. Instead, we forgot the basics. Does that help? Silent Type Aug 2025 #20

I thought it looked like people were trying that too muriel_volestrangler Aug 2025 #23

I know Biden didn't have stamina, he and staff should have known too. trump's crimes, rapes, ignorance, racism was on Silent Type Aug 2025 #25

No, Hornedfrog2000 Aug 2025 #26

Believe if you give people somthing to vote for - rather than trying to convince them to vote against - they will come. Silent Type Aug 2025 #31

Sure worked w the baggers... Ligyron Aug 2025 #59

I can make a case that the Federalist Society gab13by13 Aug 2025 #6

Careful, you'll be accused of not being part of the realty based community BannonsLiver Aug 2025 #7

Biden should have declared an emergency and sent the chief insurrectionist to Guantanamo dalton99a Aug 2025 #9

I was thinking the same thing back then. Haggard Celine Aug 2025 #64

with a crystalizing and near perfect example of what a truly partisan ( and corrupted? ) DOJ looks like stopdiggin Aug 2025 #12

So because Pam Bondi is a Nazi Garland was an effective AG? BannonsLiver Aug 2025 #15

It's just that the Merrick Garland boogie-man thing is so ..... tired .. stopdiggin Aug 2025 #17

Garland is not a boogie-man Autumn Aug 2025 #29

I wouldn't call him a "boogie man". BannonsLiver Aug 2025 #52

Merrick Garland has much to answer for but he is not the only one culpable biophile Aug 2025 #14

We know the Republicans are guilty MadameButterfly Aug 2025 #53

You are absolutely right; Dems tend to self sabotage 😑 biophile Aug 2025 #83

He should be heckled nonstop Hornedfrog2000 Aug 2025 #24

For what purpose? MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2025 #70

Enough ... we are all facing real danger of a dictatorship Greywing Aug 2025 #27

but you do not understand how hard it is to deal out punishments and hold such awesome power ImNotGod Aug 2025 #28

Oh damn, the Garland cheer leaders are going to be upset. republianmushroom Aug 2025 #30

Good iemanja Aug 2025 #89

Oh, no. Now they're insisting that it's time to move on and only bad Democrats would talk about this. Scrivener7 Aug 2025 #104

I'd like to know who Newsom will appoint as AG to deal with the crimes Trump and his henchmen are now committing. sop Aug 2025 #33

If he can't get the person he wants because he can't get a super majority gab13by13 Aug 2025 #102

Supermajorties are not needed to confirm Cabinet picks. Celerity Aug 2025 #111

You don't need a super-majority Polybius Aug 2025 #119

Justice delayed became justice denied Martin Eden Aug 2025 #34

I remember Biden's short list for AG was ... Jeebo Aug 2025 #36

Who appointed Garland? Who kept him on for the full four years? DickKessler Aug 2025 #37

Imagine if Glenn Kirschner was named AG instead of Garland........ AZ8theist Aug 2025 #38

Garland was EXACTLY what the country didn't need. NoMoreRepugs Aug 2025 #40

Looking backwards is really stupid Nigrum Cattus Aug 2025 #41

Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it Emile Aug 2025 #42

You're right! MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2025 #65

Maybe not Merrick Garland, but someone just Emile Aug 2025 #77

Many of us were calling out Garland's uselessness in real time Orrex Aug 2025 #61

+1. Delay is how Trump wins. dalton99a Aug 2025 #78

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Aug 2025 #71

Really? Cirsium Aug 2025 #74

"Ignore history. Don't learn from mistakes." writerJT Aug 2025 #76

Strongly disagree. nt Celerity Aug 2025 #110

Garland isn't the only reason our country is in this horrific mess democrank Aug 2025 #44

Merrick Grland neds to pay a very steep price for his treachery to the country. lark Aug 2025 #47

Even institutionalists can be effective BaronChocula Aug 2025 #51

We can work to take care of the important business before us... Escape Aug 2025 #54

+1. The word bipartisan should be stricken from every Democrat's dictionary dalton99a Aug 2025 #72

MG screwed the country intentionally, it's pretty obvious that he had never any intent to prosecute Dump. Clouds Passing Aug 2025 #57

i completely agree with this samsingh Aug 2025 #69

At no point... Blue Owl Aug 2025 #75

MGDS Oopsie Daisy Aug 2025 #79

"Bringing a knife to a gunfight" debsy Aug 2025 #80

I will never forgive I_UndergroundPanther Aug 2025 #84

Made the mistake the so many made in 2016 D_Master81 Aug 2025 #86

Totally agree kkmarie Aug 2025 #95

Yeah, and... OldBaldy1701E Aug 2025 #105

Oddly, I'm going to give Garland a wee bit of a pass. Pacifist Patriot Aug 2025 #87

Exactly iemanja Aug 2025 #88

Too Many Missteps and Too Much Corruption Aepps22 Aug 2025 #91

He had ONE JOB .... and he fucked it up royally (or loyally?) live love laugh Aug 2025 #92

The man who gave Trump a two year head start. prodigitalson Aug 2025 #93

And yet, look at how tooth-spittin' mad we were Oeditpus Rex Aug 2025 #97

It wasn't the nominee we were mad about. We were pissed Emile Aug 2025 #99

Uh-huh... Oeditpus Rex Aug 2025 #101

Told you so Snoopy 7 Aug 2025 #100

Since Garland didn't have the stomach, guts or boldness needed to prosecute the Felon Janbdwl72 Aug 2025 #103

Looks like most of the Garland defenders have seen the light. nt doc03 Aug 2025 #107

I doubt it. Many just are not posting in this thread. Celerity Aug 2025 #113

A lifetime of crime-ing by a rich man with impunity lostnfound Aug 2025 #108

Wow! So many bashing Biden and Obama. Joinfortmill Aug 2025 #109

And fellow DUers with differing opinions MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2025 #120

DURec leftstreet Aug 2025 #114

Every time I see this thread title MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2025 #123

Wait 'til Dems next turn in the WH... when they choose to move on rather than prosecute like with W/Cheney/Trump AStern Aug 2025 #124