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Eko

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49. What? no. The repubs gave us a dilemma.

Mon Nov 10, 2025, 12:23 AM

Nov 10

A dilemma is
a situation that requires a choice between two or more options that are equally undesirable or problematic.

We keep the government closed and people go hungry, dont get paid, essential services are not done.
We relent and tons of people lose health care and it goes up for most.
There was no good option there for the Democratic party. That is why it was not a problem. A problem can be solved, with a dilemma no matter what you do the outcomes are bad.
You say the Democrats are weak yet we held the longest shutdown ever, longer than any party.
I would say if the bridge is too far you didnt understand that we had always lost the bridge. What was important was to fight as long as we could. And we did. Historically long.
I'm sorry if you thought we were going to win this.
The only thing that would have made the republicans cave in was public pressure.
And they just dont give a fuck. President and all.
We fought for a historically long time. Some of us caved eventually.
They caved to a dilemma.
There werent any good solutions there.
But I will support those who didnt cave, cause they fought hard.
And those that didnt,
Well,,

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This was the longest shutdown ever. The fact that it went this long shows immense fight from our party. [View all] Eko Nov 9 OP

Bullshit! Jersey Devil Nov 9 #1

Same orangecrush Nov 9 #5

Same leftstreet Nov 9 #22

Thank you!!! I get SO SICK of bad decisions by Dems just being 'explained' away all the time. hamsterjill Nov 9 #29

Agreed Cirsium Nov 10 #52

And yet, Chuckie and Company still capitulated and gave the repigs what they wanted. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 9 #2

What should happen is Chuckie loses his leadership FHRRK Nov 9 #3

Nancy was a leader, Chuck is a disappointment. dem4decades Nov 9 #6

I couldn't agree with you more. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 9 #7

Seriously? Chuck Schumer voted against it. Eko Nov 9 #8

Chuckie only voted against it because he already knew that the votes were there to pass the CR MarineCombatEngineer Nov 9 #12

How do you know that? Eko Nov 9 #15

That's what I think and, quite truthfully, I think this is spot on. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 9 #23

By voting no? Eko Nov 9 #33

Apparently you didn't understand my previous posts, so, I'll say more slowly, MarineCombatEngineer Nov 9 #38

I understand your previous posts and this one makes about as much sense as the previous ones do. Eko Nov 9 #40

Ok, I now understand what you are saying, MarineCombatEngineer Nov 9 #42

And all his other no votes? Eko Nov 9 #43

I'm not talking about his other votes, MarineCombatEngineer Nov 9 #44

Is he just so ineffectual as a leader that he didn't know or couldn't hold the line? Maru Kitteh Nov 9 #24

I dont think anyone could have done that. Eko Nov 9 #28

So, don't you think this is just going to embolden the Republicans???? hamsterjill Nov 9 #35

I agree. I am not with the 8 dems that voted to open this. Eko Nov 9 #36

Yeah, the other Dems can't control what the eight did. hamsterjill Nov 9 #39

ITs been common to refer to the Democratic party as a buch of cats. Eko Nov 9 #41

Exactly Cirsium Nov 10 #57

That is how it works Cirsium Nov 10 #56

For show Cirsium Nov 10 #55

The Republicans don't have to blow up the filibuster, we'll cave. dem4decades Nov 9 #4

Exactly!!! nt MarineCombatEngineer Nov 9 #9

I cannot believe what I'm reading here. herding cats Nov 9 #10

Yes I do realize. Eko Nov 9 #11

You see this as a dilemma? herding cats Nov 9 #48

What? no. The repubs gave us a dilemma. Eko Nov 10 #49

I die. herding cats Nov 10 #50

My mom had cancer. Not long after the ACA was passed. Eko Nov 10 #54

I gave food. Lots and lots of it. herding cats Nov 10 #59

With what? Eko Nov 10 #60

Are you not reading your own word? herding cats Nov 10 #62

How does what compare? Eko Nov 10 #63

You know what herding cats Nov 10 #64

In no way did I ever say that people not getting health care is right. Eko Nov 10 #65

Good for you. herding cats Nov 10 #66

Can I help? Eko Nov 10 #67

You want to help me burn them to the ground? herding cats Nov 10 #68

Then why fight at all? iemanja Nov 9 #17

Because it was right to do so. Eko Nov 9 #18

But it's not right now? iemanja Nov 9 #25

I thought it was, 8 dems did not. Eko Nov 9 #30

Those lives Cirsium Nov 10 #58

Really disappointing that we went through this TheFarseer Nov 9 #13

The Republicans will say all the pain was for our political gain. dem4decades Nov 9 #20

What difference did it make holding out? iemanja Nov 9 #14

The fact that we fought so hard and so long. Eko Nov 9 #16

So nothing. iemanja Nov 9 #21

Fighting is not nothing at all. Eko Nov 9 #31

Trump is laughing his ass off! Emile Nov 9 #19

You just know he's going to spread this far and wide and he's right, Dems will capitulate every time MarineCombatEngineer Nov 9 #26

The shutdown really didn't effect most of us directly fujiyamasan Nov 9 #27

There is nothing to be proud of since it was Jspur Nov 9 #32

LOL, after we got sold out i needed a good laugh, thank you yaesu Nov 9 #34

WTF? hatrack Nov 9 #37

So then block me, I could care less. Here I am telling us all to be proud of what we did do that was historic Eko Nov 9 #47

Cope. Happy Hoosier Nov 9 #45

Yep, basically breathing in Trump farts and saying a scented candle fujiyamasan Nov 10 #61

Enough of the bullshit. NoRethugFriends Nov 9 #46

"shows" Cirsium Nov 10 #51

And for the foreseeable future FHRRK Nov 10 #53