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highplainsdem

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17. Human and AI learning are quite different. And btw, that's IP theft, not AI theft. And the AI companies know
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 06:43 PM
Dec 25

it's theft. There's been plenty of evidence of that, from internal documents at different companies to a former Google CEO advising that AI startups should just steal IP and bet that they won't get sued unless their company is successful, and if they are successful they can afford enough lawyers to fight the lawsuits. I posted an LBN thread about that CEO. I've. been explaining this to people here for years.

And I realize most people who like AI would prefer avoiding the fact that these are unethical, illegally trained tools based on theft. I've had to point out to AI-using academics on X - academics worrying that AI tools they like to use will steal their work, and their students' work, for training - that they're being both foolish because they can't trust the AI companies not to steal it, and hypocritical because the only reason those tools work at all is because so much intellectual property was stolen before the tools were released. The value of those AI tools is almost 100% in the stolen IP, which the AI bros have no intention of paying for. OpenAI has admitted in court documents that they have no hope of ever making a profit if they have to pay for what they stole.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/ai-doesnt-learn-like-people-do

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How AI works [View all] canetoad Dec 25 OP
In other words... it's an accelerated version of the last 1000 years. WarGamer Dec 25 #1
AI has the potential to uncover some groundbreaking health treatments, True Dough Dec 25 #2
This is why a progressive Government needs to lead into the future of AI... WarGamer Dec 25 #4
Agreed. True Dough Dec 25 #6
We don't have that government currently, the AI bros have never talked seriously about sharing their highplainsdem Dec 25 #10
Putting that money directly into medical research would be much more likely to produce results. highplainsdem Dec 25 #5
It's being developed by all the wrong people for all the wrong reasons? snot Dec 25 #20
No, genAI is turning Homo sapiens into brainless twits dependent on hallucinating chatbots and highplainsdem Dec 25 #3
I disagree. WarGamer Dec 25 #7
So what? Chatbots have a very high error rate. You don't know if any of that's true unless you check highplainsdem Dec 25 #9
the whole IP theft thing... WarGamer Dec 25 #12
Human and AI learning are quite different. And btw, that's IP theft, not AI theft. And the AI companies know highplainsdem Dec 25 #17
Isn't the VAST majority of LLM taught on public source data? WarGamer Dec 25 #18
Look up the difference between public and public domain. What isn't in the public domain is highplainsdem Dec 25 #21
For one thing, when considering a claim for copyright violation, snot Dec 25 #22
google can't, but wikipedia can, and better WhiskeyGrinder Dec 25 #13
I agree with the phrase canetoad Dec 25 #15
there we agree... 100%. It's a propagandists dream. WarGamer Dec 25 #16
No, it's not. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 25 #11
Except the size and scope of what it can take in is greater EdmondDantes_ Dec 25 #14
Consider that "dog food" usonian Dec 25 #8
I personally have found AI to be a very useful tool anciano Dec 25 #19
Absolutely. In the last few weeks I had to dispute a medical bill ... rog Dec 25 #23
Excellent! anciano Dec 25 #24
Same here -- they're fine if you're aware of its limitations fujiyamasan Dec 25 #27
Just waiting for the bubble to rapidly disinflate. nt BootinUp Dec 25 #25
Looking forward to it. highplainsdem Dec 25 #28
I too have had an incredibly positive experience using AI. AI can find me information far quicker than Google. Doodley Dec 25 #26
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