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21. Newsom is right. And Europe consistently looks weak.

Tue Jan 20, 2026, 07:00 PM

Jan 20

Europe thought they could play along. They are just realizing that the world they thought they left behind is back and has been since at least 2022.

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Newsom didn't do anyone any favors by blowing up at the European leaders [View all] bigtree Jan 20 OP

Yeah he needs to be more weak and ineffectual like Merrick Garland. BannonsLiver Jan 20 #1

Yup, par for the course LR3 Jan 20 #3

Um, no Dave says Jan 21 #50

You are absolutely right. sheshe2 Jan 20 #2

Appeasement didn't work out too well for Europe in the 1930's newdeal2 Jan 20 #4

I was disturbed when I heard him earlier today. brer cat Jan 20 #5

He didn't "blow up" MorbidButterflyTat Jan 20 #6

So he didn't say... TheProle Jan 20 #12

Newsom is right Skittles Jan 20 #15

That wasn't my question to the previous poster, but noted. TheProle Jan 20 #16

He was addressing the press. MorbidButterflyTat Jan 22 #94

Not arguing anymore TheProle Jan 23 #102

Mark Carney appears to be the only leader who truly gets it peggysue2 Jan 22 #68

Right on time. Kingofalldems Jan 20 #33

What do you mean? MorbidButterflyTat Jan 22 #93

+ 1. If I were casting a remake of The Darkest Hour starring DUers I know who would be playing Lord Halifax. BannonsLiver Jan 20 #13

Thanks for the video IcyPeas Jan 20 #20

You're welcome, and I agree with you. MorbidButterflyTat Jan 22 #95

i'm a considered writer, not a kneejerk poster, and I always make the effort to be clear bigtree Jan 20 #23

European parliaments have frank discussion, at cachukis Jan 20 #28

Nothing personal MorbidButterflyTat Jan 22 #96

He did not creon Jan 21 #53

If he is planning to Greg_In_SF Jan 20 #7

Right....because the other party is Bettie Jan 22 #72

You're right Greg_In_SF Jan 22 #85

There is nothing remotely MAGAt about Gavin Newsom MorbidButterflyTat Jan 22 #97

Post removed Post removed Jan 23 #100

Quite the ironic assertions Torchlight Jan 23 #101

Non-ugly American Starbeach Jan 20 #8

not even wrong creon Jan 20 #9

THANK YOU Skittles Jan 20 #18

We are always in transition. Trump has spoiled the cachukis Jan 20 #10

Agree IcyPeas Jan 20 #22

DURec leftstreet Jan 20 #11

Sorry he's absolutely right fujiyamasan Jan 20 #14

I would say he is right. It's a fucking embarassment from all corners. Not excusing any US politician. boston bean Jan 20 #17

Totally agree with you. nt Raine Jan 20 #19

Newsom is right. And Europe consistently looks weak. Renew Deal Jan 20 #21

Europe looks weak because they're dealing with internal issues haele Jan 20 #30

What do you mean by TimeToGo Jan 20 #35

Sorry, typing on my phone, will correct the stupid haele Jan 20 #36

😎 We've all been there TimeToGo Jan 20 #40

I couldn't agree more Fiendish Thingy Jan 20 #24

He's right though. GoodRaisin Jan 20 #25

Maybe. I think that they get it. themaguffin Jan 20 #26

I'm on Newsom's side here. The entire world needs to be more vocal in their stances against Trump. LonePirate Jan 20 #27

Hell no. TIME TO KICK SOME ASS. Irish_Dem Jan 20 #29

"Nice guys finish last." Leo Durocher anciano Jan 20 #31

..in bed. Qutzupalotl Jan 21 #58

I voted for him for governor but I'd rather have someone else as President kimbutgar Jan 20 #32

I support Newsom's remarks and attitude 100%.. Escape Jan 20 #34

Wondering what European leaders think of America voters. Emile Jan 20 #37

I find nothing wrong with what he said. nt Chalco Jan 20 #38

Newsom is right about the complicity of the world's superrich. He's doing his part. I don't see any other Democratic ancianita Jan 20 #39

how is this fellow the 'Democratic cause? ' bigtree Jan 21 #46

Thanks for your usual thoughtful post. Much appreciated. I want to point out that he is frustrated, because ancianita Jan 21 #48

Nothing worse than mealy mouthed apologists & critics of courage NotHardly Jan 20 #41

Not a good look for Newsom. OGBuzz Jan 20 #42

Hmmm GusBob Jan 21 #43

Would giving specifics be viewed as treason? n/t BadgerKid Jan 21 #44

Meh, when you lead an economy as large as California's, you get to say certain things JonAndKatePlusABird Jan 21 #45

I doubt they cared at this point beyond bemusement bigtree Jan 21 #47

Sorry, I'm sick and tired of meek capitulation. Arthur_Frain Jan 21 #49

Well, The High Road markodochartaigh Jan 21 #51

our votes for Obama kept the Democrats in control of the WH for EIGHT YEARS bigtree Jan 22 #62

Yes--I felt it was a bit over the top with the "knee pads" and "pathetic" being thrown around crimycarny Jan 21 #52

Newsom was right on substance but still made a strategic error. tritsofme Jan 21 #54

I like the fire Sugarcoated Jan 21 #55

No one whose judgment included marrying Kimberley Guilfoyle DJ Synikus Makisimus Jan 21 #56

I disagree with some points, agree with others, and just plain don't markodochartaigh Jan 21 #57

I think this is a load of CRAP, to criticize one of the few Democratic Party leaders Jack Valentino Jan 21 #59

so bigtree Jan 22 #60

'...and like all macho displays in response to political challenges, the OP's response contained more heat than light' Jack Valentino Jan 22 #89

it would be a different discussion if it centered on what I wrote in the op bigtree Jan 22 #92

Thank you, amigo.... My main fault on this forum has to be Jack Valentino Jan 22 #98

I stand with Gavin Blues Heron Jan 22 #61

👍 👏 💯 🗣🔊 ColoringFool Jan 22 #63

why is he attacking the Europeans? bigtree Jan 22 #65

Did you read what he said? It's a wake up call. Blues Heron Jan 22 #66

did I read it? bigtree Jan 22 #67

Your overreacting , this is 2026- there is a new, less uptight electorate out there, the fuddy duddy era is over Blues Heron Jan 22 #70

you're bigtree Jan 22 #71

This thread sure went south on you pretty quickly. BannonsLiver Jan 22 #73

I think Newsome was absolutely right. That is the problem with almost all politicians and so called leaders, Autumn Jan 22 #64

We need more Gavin Newsoms and less tone police Renew Deal Jan 22 #69

Hmmm, disinvesting in the US FHRRK Jan 22 #74

no, what you wrote is specious bigtree Jan 22 #75

Let me give some general advice FHRRK Jan 22 #81

it's already assumed in this format that respondants are positing their own opinions bigtree Jan 22 #82

Again, IMO, people are looking for fighters FHRRK Jan 22 #83

do you know what specious means? superficially plausible, but actually wrong bigtree Jan 22 #84

For the love of all things holy FHRRK Jan 22 #86

let me put it more plainly bigtree Jan 22 #87

"I lied..." FHRRK Jan 22 #88

did you tell the truth? bigtree Jan 22 #90

Whew! FHRRK Jan 22 #91

Bullshit. Newsom was brilliant. He's positioned himself as the anti-trump. Euro leaders want that. Sibelius Fan Jan 22 #76

he also positioned himself as anti-European leader bigtree Jan 22 #79

at least he's trying - which is a lot more than so many other leaders samsingh Jan 22 #77

but that's not the issue I'm raising here bigtree Jan 22 #78

Newsom really fucked over the elderly and disabled CountAllVotes Jan 22 #80

Recommended. H2O Man Jan 22 #99

K&R LetMyPeopleVote Jan 23 #103