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In reply to the discussion: Extreme global climate outcomes are possible even at 2C of warming [View all]NNadir
(37,989 posts)...soothsaying in the tables.
I have been extremely clear about this, but am often ignored by people who can't figure out whether 18 (9+9) is bigger than 31.
I have every fucking World Energy Outlook in my files going back to the dawn of this century. For the whole time I've been collecting these, the rate of collapse of the planetary atmosphere has been accelerating, with positive second, and even third derivatives.
If nuclear is not the sole source of electrical energy it is because people keep carrying on - dishonestly - about what is faster to build.
The tables of historical data from the IEA shows quite clearly, that the multi trillion dollar solar and wind scam, in units of energy, again the Joule, not the Watt has failed to produce as many Joules as nuclear energy has been producing for decades.
I have the IEA tables from the 2025 WEO handy, covering, again, historical data, and of course, soothsaying, which again, I don't credit.

World Energy Outlook 2025 Page 420.
Let me know, again, if I am required to believe that 9 + 9 is greater than 31.
The bullshit idea that it is faster to build wind and solar junk than it is to build nuclear is another pernicious lie put forth by antinukes and "I'm not an antinuke" antinukes.
Another real whopper is "nuclear is too expensive" as if the collapse of the planetary atmosphere is cheap.
I note that the number 31 attached to the unit of energy, the Exajoule, for nuclear production in 2024, has been achieved in an atmosphere of insipid demonization and carrying on, while the two numbers 9 and 9 for wind and solar each took place in an orgy of expensive wishful thinking and mindless cheering.
It obviously takes way too long for solar and wind junk to produce meaningful energy, even at a price now approaching a trillion dollars a year. If, however, one is merely concerned with the speed of build, it is true that it is relatively fast to build dangerous fossil fuel powered plants, which strikes me as fine with antinukes and "I'm not an antinuke" antinukes, since I see no evidence at all they give a shit about fossil fuels, on which, by the way, so called "renewable energy" depends. They are certainly rushing to build gas powerplants in Germany albeit with bullshit rhetoric how they could run them on hydrogen, hydrogen being a rebrand of fossil fuels, from which hydrogen is overwhelmingly made, at a cost of exergy destruction.
Germany says new gas power plants will be online by 2031 following EU deal
Lovely, just lovely.
I would hope that people whining about the collapse of the planetary atmosphere while bad mouthing nuclear energy would get serious, but thus far there is no evidence that they will.
By the way, speaking of reports, the final report on the recent collapse of the electrical system in Spain and Portugal is out. One can download it. I would suggest using the text searching function to find the word "inverter" in the report. It's an illuminating discussion of the unfortunate darkness on the Iberian peninsula.
Final Report, April 28, 2005 Iberian blackout.
The word "inverter" occurs 144 times.
Have a nice day.